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Boy, UC fanboys sure get riled up something fierce when you don’t like 0079, Zeta, and Char’s Counterattack as much as they do.

Coincidentally those are the three parts that focus on Amuro and Char. And the other original UC series, ZZ Gundam, never gets brought up. Even more coincidentally, it doesn’t feature Amuro and Char at all!

Therefore Amuro and Char superfans are the worst. Though we all knew that already.

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Link 19 Oct 73 notes Gundam Tier List Updated»

emeraldflowsion:

mobile-suit-gundam:

gslchar:

sabertoothalex:

So as my Journey Through Gundam continues I’m updating this list to reflect where I’m at with this franchise.

Best:

G Gundam, Build Fighters, Crossbone Gundam, Turn A

Great:

ZZ, Wing, F91, Unicorn

Good:

0079, Zeta

Meh:

Endless Waltz

Bad:

SEED

Heap Of…

This is blasphemy.

HOW IS 0079 ON THE GOOD AND NOT BEST LIST? It’s literally a classic. One of the best paced anime series ever, and one of the essential sci-fi stories of the medium.

I disagree that it’s super well paced. It has a lot of really good stuff in it, some amazing stuff, but stretches of it are kinda painful to get through. I also don’t think Amuro is all that interesting. Char is by far the most interesting part of that series and they don’t delve into his character enough imo. Though I’ve heard that the Origin manga rectifies that in a really cool way so I’m looking forward to reading that.

Char’s characterization is also one of those things that I really loved in 0079 and Zeta that I felt CCA completely shit on.

Link 19 Oct 73 notes Gundam Tier List Updated»

takingbackrudy:

sabertoothalex:

takingbackrudy:

sabertoothalex:

gslchar:

sabertoothalex:

So as my Journey Through Gundam continues I’m updating this list to reflect where I’m at with this franchise.

Best:

G Gundam, Build Fighters, Crossbone Gundam, Turn A

Great:

ZZ, Wing, F91, Unicorn

Good:

0079, Zeta

Meh:

Endless Waltz

Bad:

SEED

Heap Of…

Zeta has a boatload of problems, not the least of which is its desire to kill off almost every important woman in the series just so Kamille could become a TROO NEWTYPE. The Lalah Curse is real and it sucks especially hard in Zeta. The reliance on that single plot point 4 or 5 times throughout the series is so bad.

Zeta has a lot of strong points too. Most of the characters are really good, it has amazing mechs, and cool fights. 

**SPOILERS FOR ZETA**

The basis of Zeta was shock. Not pointless shock and awe like SEED, the deaths are meaningful and further enhance the story by destroying all plot armor. Killing off pretty much all of the protagonists except for Bright’s crew(since Quattro goes back to the alias of Char I’m counting that as the death of Quattro). Which was supposed to happen in the original, but Sunrise deemed it too dark and Tomino had to tone it down for younger audiences and to sell toys. 

The female characters had a more prominent death because it was harder to see them die. Rosamia, Four, Sarah, Emma, and Reccoa all knew Kamille well and impacted him heavily, their deaths rocked him to his core and that’s what war does. The premise of the Lalah curse is to show the harshest example of mental strain a person can take, e.g. partly why Amuro went into hiding for 7 years. It also shows what Newtypes truly are, being connected strongly to other beings which is why whenever one dies they feel horrible.

Zeta’s dark atmosphere and story are what set it apart from the rest and why it’s so great, you don’t know what’s coming. In every other series it ends with the protag winning the last fight and having everything be right, a romantic idea that is good for story, in Zeta it shows reality. Gundam is a war story, and no other incarnation shows it better than Zeta. This is also partly why I hate that the AUs took the name Gundam because they would’ve been a lot better with an original name.

Oh and just so you don’t say I’m biased, G Gundam was the first Gundam I watched and I thought it was the greatest until I saw what Gundam was really about.

Yes, I understand that Zeta is dark and brooding. I know what they were going for. It was somewhere around when they brought Four back for two episodes just to kill her again where Zeta lost a part of me. They negated her sacrifice just to so that they can kill her again to make Kamille stronger. That’s cheap and stupid.

Zeta’s serious story is NOT unique. If you wanted to say the ending was unique, I’d be with you. However a dark and serious story is present in almost all Gundams, AU and UC. Maybe you mean how almost every moment of it was full of brooding melodrama because that still is fairly unique to Zeta. I like ZZ so much because it’s pretty much the opposite of that. It’s lighthearted and fun but really serious when it needs to be. Much more effective than just oppressively dumping melodrama on you all the time.

The idea that Gundam can only be one thing to be “real’ is trash. Gundam is different things to different people depending on what they do and don’t enjoy. G Gundam is a REAL Gundam show. Turn A is a REAL Gundam show. Wing is a REAL Gundam show. Trying to limit the franchise to be one thing is really really counterproductive and bad for everyone.

UC fanboys need to sit the fuck down and re-evaluate why they even want to continue watching Gundam stories. Is this what Tomino was talking about when he said G-Reco wasn’t for existing fans?

Trying to build onto an already established series can only hamper the new creation. I prefer UC but I don’t deny other shows of the title Gundam, they would just be better off without Gundam and the stigma that comes with it. Zeta followed the trends of 80’s anime I know that, but it did it while improving on the original in every way.

G Gundam is barely a Gundam show since it goes into super robot and is completely so far off of the source. That being said I can still enjoy it, it’s still a fun watch every now and then but it is definitely not the best series by a long shot. Also it isn’t an idea, that’s how it was started, and that’s why every series follows suit except for G Gundam, Beginning G, GBF, and its sequel. 

Kamille went to go see Four after he spotted her, she wasn’t just brought back and wasn’t just killed off, since as most would expect she would be rescued and join aboard the Argama and live happily with Kamille but instead was killed by Jerid to “even” the score between the two.

UC also has better storytelling than all the other AUs and there’s a reason why it is still going on and being branched off of. UC Fanboys will still watch Gundam because well wouldn’t you know, that’s where it started off and that’s where it keeps on going.

You said:

"This is also partly why I hate that the AUs took the name Gundam because they would’ve been a lot better with an original name."

How is this not trying to deny those series the Gundam name? You’re pigeonholing what Gundam is. As long as all the different AU series have the Gundam name they’re real Gundam shows. AU shows have made this franchise really thrive all of these years and holding a grudge against them because they’re not UC is really sad. 

I’ll be very curious to see what all the UC fanboys end up thinking of G-Reco. Much like ZZ I expect a lot of them to whine about it ad nauseam because it doesn’t fit exactly into the UC mold.

Link 19 Oct 73 notes Gundam Tier List Updated»

takingbackrudy:

sabertoothalex:

gslchar:

sabertoothalex:

So as my Journey Through Gundam continues I’m updating this list to reflect where I’m at with this franchise.

Best:

G Gundam, Build Fighters, Crossbone Gundam, Turn A

Great:

ZZ, Wing, F91, Unicorn

Good:

0079, Zeta

Meh:

Endless Waltz

Bad:

SEED

Heap Of…

Zeta has a boatload of problems, not the least of which is its desire to kill off almost every important woman in the series just so Kamille could become a TROO NEWTYPE. The Lalah Curse is real and it sucks especially hard in Zeta. The reliance on that single plot point 4 or 5 times throughout the series is so bad.

Zeta has a lot of strong points too. Most of the characters are really good, it has amazing mechs, and cool fights. 

**SPOILERS FOR ZETA**

The basis of Zeta was shock. Not pointless shock and awe like SEED, the deaths are meaningful and further enhance the story by destroying all plot armor. Killing off pretty much all of the protagonists except for Bright’s crew(since Quattro goes back to the alias of Char I’m counting that as the death of Quattro). Which was supposed to happen in the original, but Sunrise deemed it too dark and Tomino had to tone it down for younger audiences and to sell toys. 

The female characters had a more prominent death because it was harder to see them die. Rosamia, Four, Sarah, Emma, and Reccoa all knew Kamille well and impacted him heavily, their deaths rocked him to his core and that’s what war does. The premise of the Lalah curse is to show the harshest example of mental strain a person can take, e.g. partly why Amuro went into hiding for 7 years. It also shows what Newtypes truly are, being connected strongly to other beings which is why whenever one dies they feel horrible.

Zeta’s dark atmosphere and story are what set it apart from the rest and why it’s so great, you don’t know what’s coming. In every other series it ends with the protag winning the last fight and having everything be right, a romantic idea that is good for story, in Zeta it shows reality. Gundam is a war story, and no other incarnation shows it better than Zeta. This is also partly why I hate that the AUs took the name Gundam because they would’ve been a lot better with an original name.

Oh and just so you don’t say I’m biased, G Gundam was the first Gundam I watched and I thought it was the greatest until I saw what Gundam was really about.

Yes, I understand that Zeta is dark and brooding. I know what they were going for. It was somewhere around when they brought Four back for two episodes just to kill her again where Zeta lost a part of me. They negated her sacrifice just to so that they can kill her again to make Kamille stronger. That’s cheap and stupid.

Zeta’s serious story is NOT unique. If you wanted to say the ending was unique, I’d be with you. However a dark and serious story is present in almost all Gundams, AU and UC. Maybe you mean how almost every moment of it was full of brooding melodrama because that still is fairly unique to Zeta. I like ZZ so much because it’s pretty much the opposite of that. It’s lighthearted and fun but really serious when it needs to be. Much more effective than just oppressively dumping melodrama on you all the time.

The idea that Gundam can only be one thing to be “real’ is trash. Gundam is different things to different people depending on what they do and don’t enjoy. G Gundam is a REAL Gundam show. Turn A is a REAL Gundam show. Wing is a REAL Gundam show. Trying to limit the franchise to be one thing is really really counterproductive and bad for everyone.

UC fanboys need to sit the fuck down and re-evaluate why they even want to continue watching Gundam stories. Is this what Tomino was talking about when he said G-Reco wasn’t for existing fans?

Link 19 Oct 73 notes Gundam Tier List Updated»

gslchar:

sabertoothalex:

So as my Journey Through Gundam continues I’m updating this list to reflect where I’m at with this franchise.

Best:

G Gundam, Build Fighters, Crossbone Gundam, Turn A

Great:

ZZ, Wing, F91, Unicorn

Good:

0079, Zeta

Meh:

Endless Waltz

Bad:

SEED

Heap Of…

Because 0079 is really rough and antiquated now. It has some incredible stuff in it but it’s also pretty unrelentingly boring for stretches. I’m going to read the Origin manga sometime soon as I’ve heard it updates the story really well. 

Link 19 Oct 73 notes Gundam Tier List Updated»

gslchar:

sabertoothalex:

So as my Journey Through Gundam continues I’m updating this list to reflect where I’m at with this franchise.

Best:

G Gundam, Build Fighters, Crossbone Gundam, Turn A

Great:

ZZ, Wing, F91, Unicorn

Good:

0079, Zeta

Meh:

Endless Waltz

Bad:

SEED

Heap Of…

I thought SEED was the worst thing ever until I saw CCA and 00. They gave me the context to see that SEED was really just a poor remake of 0079 with shitty characters. It’s really bad but not entirely offensive.

CCA is entirely shitty. Plot sucks, Char with the total motivation-less heel turn, almost entirely devoid of cool fights. As completely awful as characters in SEED are NO ONE EVEN COMPETES WITH THE AWFULNESS OF QUESS AND HATHAWAY.

I think the unrelenting boners the Gundam fandom has for Char and Amuro blind them to the shittiness that is their conclusion. 

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Link 19 Oct 73 notes Gundam Tier List Updated»

gslchar:

sabertoothalex:

So as my Journey Through Gundam continues I’m updating this list to reflect where I’m at with this franchise.

Best:

G Gundam, Build Fighters, Crossbone Gundam, Turn A

Great:

ZZ, Wing, F91, Unicorn

Good:

0079, Zeta

Meh:

Endless Waltz

Bad:

SEED

Heap Of…

Zeta has a boatload of problems, not the least of which is its desire to kill off almost every important woman in the series just so Kamille could become a TROO NEWTYPE. The Lalah Curse is real and it sucks especially hard in Zeta. The reliance on that single plot point 4 or 5 times throughout the series is so bad.

Zeta has a lot of strong points too. Most of the characters are really good, it has amazing mechs, and cool fights. 

Link 19 Oct 73 notes Gundam Tier List Updated»

sabertoothalex:

So as my Journey Through Gundam continues I’m updating this list to reflect where I’m at with this franchise.

Best:

G Gundam, Build Fighters, Crossbone Gundam, Turn A

Great:

ZZ, Wing, F91, Unicorn

Good:

0079, Zeta

Meh:

Endless Waltz

Bad:

SEED

Heap Of Trash:

Char’s…

Awful characters, completely motivation-less extreme changes to Char from Zeta, maybe one and a half cool fights in the whole thing. It was awful. 


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